Lakeland Outpouring

[preachaboy08]

Every time I watch a part of Todd Bentley at the Lakeland Outpouring, I feel something in my spirit...and let me tell you, it's not good.

I don't know what you guys think...but...it seems to me that he's putting too much emphasis on angels and false things. Some things he's said and done are:

He heard from God that he is supposed to get people to believe in the angel.
It is against the Word of God to glorify anyone but God. We are not to exalt angels.

He got the vision for the outpouring from an angel named Emma, introduced to him by Bob Jones, who is a "mothering" type
First of all, there is no direct reference to female angels in the Bible. There is one reference where it speaks of two females with wings carrying away a basket, but it does not outright say they are angels. Also...a mothering type? Angels are ministering spirits, not parental figures...God is our parental figure!

He has COMMANDED God to open up the heavens and send angels and called the angels to come.
Last time I checked my Bible...no one commanded God to send angels...He sent them when He felt they were necessary...no one called on angels either, they called on God.

He has had the congregation repeatedly chant, asking God to send angels.
Sounds a bit like the Prophets of Baal and their fire...

Todd Bentley has "types" of angels: Angels of Glory, Angels of Healing, and Warring Angels
The only one I could even THINK about believing is the warring angel...Glory belongs to God, and Healing comes THROUGH God, NOT angels!

He has believed and claimed a prophecy that Jesus would come physically onto the stage...then tried to justify it that "would appear on stage physically, in person" did not actually mean physically.
Umm...you need to see the video to understand this one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNGPjFYdgJw

Todd claims he was possessed by demons AFTER being saved.
Umm....the Holy Spirit and demons cannot inhabit the same place...so I was taught

Todd Bentley claims that God told him to:
-Bang a crippled lady's legs against the stage like a baseball bat to heal them.
-Kick a woman in the face to cause the "power of God" to move
-Run a guy down and choke him to get demons out
-Leg drop a pastor to bring revival
-Repeatedly punch a lady in the stomach to get rid of cancer
This is done in the Bible where?

So, yeah...anyone else have thoughts on Mr. Bentley?

[YourPastorT]

Rely on the Holy Spirit within you as He uses Scripture to confirm or refute.

In Christ Service

Your Pastor T

[BellaRose]

All the questions you have had .. I have also had.. I know of some Aussies that are going over to Florida to GET SOME...
Get some what??
Sorry but I wouldnt go near the guy with a ten foot pole.
I have watched his preaching, and his healing crusades.... When did Jesus ever heal someone by saying BAM?
If JESUS is the same yesterday, today and forever, and God says even of HIMSELF.. I THE LORD DO NOT CHANGE
then why would God allow new things like this?? You are right. where is there any evidence of a FEMALE angel in the bible?

We have got to question these things and ALWAYS line things up with the WORD

Alot of people are flocking to Todd Bentley............... not this little duck!!!

I believe  The Holy Spirit is the same today as HE was at pentecost, i belive in miracles, I believe..... but I just can not
believe in all of this..... I had the same feeling in my spirit..... i actually felt sick when i watched one of his videos when he was caught up to HEAVEN in a pillar of fire and operated on by angels..... ummmmmm sounds like a SCI FI movie to me

I dont know.... what is going on with this so called revival.... I thought revival aways began with REPENTANCE and HUMBLENESS?
We were warned about LYING signs and wonders, false prophets, doctrines taught by demons, delusions, deceptions...
Funny how we cant see it when it is right in front of our face
No wonder Jesus called us sheep............ sheep can be pretty dumb you know!! LOL

[BellaRose]

Great RAVENHILL QUOTES-Leonard Ravenhill.

"A popular evangelist reaches your emotions. A true prophet
reaches your conscience."

"The last words of Jesus to the church (in Revelation) were 'Repent!'"

"A true shepherd leads the way. He does not merely point the way."

"Your doctrine can be as straight as a gun barrel-and just as empty!"

"John the Baptist never performed any miracles. Yet, he was greater
than any of the Old Testament prophets."

"I doubt that more than two percent of professing Christians in the
United States are truly born again."

"Our God is a consuming fire. He consumes pride, lust, materialism,
and other sin."

"There are only two kinds of persons: those dead in sin and those dead to sin."

[Concerning the darkness that has enveloped most of Christendom:]
"When you're sitting in a dark room, you can either sit and curse the
darkness-or you can light a candle."

"Children can tell you what Channel 7 says, but not what Matthew 7 says."

"Some women will spend thirty minutes to an hour preparing for
church externally (putting on special clothes and makeup, etc.).
What would happen if we all spent the same amount of time
preparing internally for church-with prayer and meditation?"

"Maturity comes from obedience, not necessarily from age."

"What good does it do to speak in tongues on Sunday if you have
been using your tongue during the week to curse and gossip?"

"The only time you can really say that 'Christ is all I need,' is when
Christ is all you have."

"The Bible is either absolute, or it's obsolete."

"Why do we expect to be better treated in this world than Jesus was?"

"Today's church wants to be raptured from responsibility."

"Testimonies are wonderful. But, so often our lives don't fit our testimonies."

[Concerning one of the new "movements" in the church that was
causing a stir among Christians:] "There's also a stir when the
circus comes to town."

"My main ambition in life is to be on the Devil's most wanted list."

"You can't develop character by reading books. You develop it from conflict."

"When there's something in the Bible that churches don't like,
they call it 'legalism.'"

"We can't serve God by proxy."

"We must do what we can do for God, before He will give us the
power to do what we can't do."

"There's a difference between changing your opinion, and changing
your lifestyle."

"Our seminaries today are turning out dead men."

"How can you pull down strongholds of Satan if you don't even have
the strength to turn off your TV?"

"Everyone recognizes that Stephen was Spirit-filled when he was
performing wonders. Yet, he was just as Spirit-filled when he was
being stoned to death."

"If a Christian is not having tribulation in the world, there's
something wrong!"

[Concerning the fixation that today's church has with numbers,
with growth at any price:] "The church has paid a terrible price for
statistics!"

"Any method of evangelism will work-if God is in it."

"Church unity comes from corporate humility."

"You can have all of your doctrines right-yet still not have the
presence of God."

"Many pastors criticize me for taking the Gospel so seriously. But
do they really think that on Judgment Day, Christ will chastise me,
saying, 'Leonard, you took Me too seriously'?"

"If Jesus had preached the same message that ministers preach
today, He would never have been crucified."

"You can know a lot about the atonement, and yet receive no benefit from it."

"If the whole church goes off into deception, that will in no way
excuse us for not following Christ."

RAVENHILL's MOST POWERFUL BOOK - "Why Revival Tarries".

[bobinfaith]

Dear Adam;

Excellent, excellent thread! Your comments are spot on, Adam!   I've never heard of Todd Bentley but no doubt this man is convincing those who are lost and desperate. 

Jesus warns us in Matthew 24  

Just like many of you, I've been too busy ministering to the suffering, pointing them to Jesus, good stuff.   But let the world beware for those of us who stay focused on the Truth.  We must be prepared to do battle against the pawns of spiritual darkness.

Your brother in Christ Jesus.    b

[Preacherhc]

Just a personnel thought. I have not seen any of the shows but a pastor friend of mine has  and this pastor deals with witchcraft, demons, VooDoo 9 months out of the year. Both his wife and him told me they thought that Tod was right on?

From what I basicly read in the topic and the post here is that many disagree with
the Method of operation  or something that really can't be proven to be against the
Word but is against  what  we feel or think or have been told is wrong...

from what I have heard. in the services there  is deleiverence, healings and salvations by the tens. in an unorodox fashion but are happening

Just my thoughts and not to start another arguement  about Tod or anyother meeting that is going on......

Love  the Lord and you all
howard

[bobinfaith]

I believe the Word reveals the doctrine Jesus teaches us about the days to come.  Many wonderful signs will be performed, with quick gratification proclaiming deliverance and salvation.   

Instead Jesus Christ worked slowly, preached in parables and warned not to announce the healings He did to the suffering, because many would come only to see the miracles without seeing the Light.  

I have to agree with you, Preacherhc.  Lets not argue and waste oxygen, lets all of us be still, in prayer, seeking wisdom, fear the Lord and cautious of the signs. 

In time we will see the result of seeds that fall on rocky places and scorch, or fall on good soil and flourish. 

Your brother in Christ Jesus.  b